Parker Yahoo Group Archived Messages

ID	From	Subject	Date
371	Keith Tsuchiyama	RE: I''ll let you know how they work	3/18/2005 15:03:00
Dave, Thank you for the information... is your 2510 a mod hull? keith -----Original Message----- From: McGuffey, David [mailto:<a href="/group/parkerboats/post?postID=iEovcnjWNNvlU-t1LNvsrS24JdofOdxFOFq55SWe3TI-Exa3JzOdtW60Q1vUYl8Gzph5y_NBAQl_Bq3LqrsKa0I">david.c.mcguffey@...</a>] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 11:55 AM To: <a href="/group/parkerboats/post?postID=mGuR59mrjg7AggVbvoinDAdzy_Hw8R6utiXsrgXJZFprYe_YIjTHlNsCZN26FYLNfByM1r3I5vBVGlc92CJFF2dupA">'[email protected]</a>' Subject: RE: [parkerboats] I'll let you know how they work Keith, You're right--I couldn't find my old post either. Maybe when Wiley upgraded the site a few months back, some of the old archives didn't make the move. Anyway, I have a Parker 2150 with twin F115s. Bottom line is that the twin F115s add enough weight to the transom that the small OEM tabs don't have enough effect. I believe this set up is a bit more transom heavy and thus should have much larger tabs. The cost of tabs was high compared to the DoelFins. So I went looking for DoelFins. First I did some research and discovered that there were a lot of complaints against the DoelFins (and similar styles) that bolted onto the ends of the anti-ventilation plate. Appears that the constant flexing eventually cracks the plate. The recommendation was for the kind that bolt to the bottom of the anti-ventilation plate, and have full contact with the bottom of that plate. Only two manufacturers meet that--Permatrim and CoBra Marine. Permatrims were much more expensive, and I needed two. So I ordered two CoBra plates from Cabela's. They were much lower cost and worked great. Get the unpainted SS ones--the paint comes off over the long-haul anyway. The plates give the transom much more lift, and I don't have to trim the motors all the way in to get the bow down like I did without the plates. In fact, I can run the motors at almost the neutral position, and the tabs have become much more sensitive/effective. Actually improved my gph burn because the motors were more neutrally trimmed and the tabs weren't plowing furrows in the water like before. The plates are so effective, that If I trim the motors all the way in, I can force the bow down too far, and the ride gets squirrely. So...I'm very happy with the outcome. LTC Dave McGuffey (USA Ret.) aka Skopje on both thehulltruth.com and tidalfish.com -----Original Message----- From: Keith Tsuchiyama [mailto:<a href="/group/parkerboats/post?postID=6LeGfr4qyQIs82OVl_WwDx-BGoSqdiTaj0r0DnnRn2mFbTKrFUUvEA1Rd9p33RvNU60v36p33iyZJO4wt61FyGKoGQ">ktsuchiyama@...</a>] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 2:18 PM To: <a href="/group/parkerboats/post?postID=mGuR59mrjg7AggVbvoinDAdzy_Hw8R6utiXsrgXJZFprYe_YIjTHlNsCZN26FYLNfByM1r3I5vBVGlc92CJFF2dupA">'[email protected]</a>' Subject: RE: [parkerboats] I'll let you know how they work I tried to search for this dissertation, couldn't find it. sorry. -----Original Message----- From: McGuffey, David [mailto:<a href="/group/parkerboats/post?postID=iEovcnjWNNvlU-t1LNvsrS24JdofOdxFOFq55SWe3TI-Exa3JzOdtW60Q1vUYl8Gzph5y_NBAQl_Bq3LqrsKa0I">david.c.mcguffey@...</a>] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 11:12 AM To: <a href="/group/parkerboats/post?postID=mGuR59mrjg7AggVbvoinDAdzy_Hw8R6utiXsrgXJZFprYe_YIjTHlNsCZN26FYLNfByM1r3I5vBVGlc92CJFF2dupA">'[email protected]</a>' Subject: RE: [parkerboats] I'll let you know how they work Obviously you didn't do a search on TheHullTruth.com and see my long dissertation on the CoBra plates I mounted on twin F115s on a 2510. -----Original Message----- From: Art Marshall [mailto:<a href="/group/parkerboats/post?postID=9X6buuf4CQwHMilx4B4LiPBUvEYOpYqK2nRY0XPiBNrePAPRC5ZftIrn-DiNJ89AN3vDi62Epn2jKRkNU9Bd750jPipG">thehoseconnection@...</a>] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 10:04 PM To: <a href="/group/parkerboats/post?postID=T4ayfpzY-U39GII9OlggIWhfZd3-fDf68rI6ek5V7WqrWJ7taS0oVCmKBSddkyJAPO8ccUyAJvHZFLwf5u6-ISYutzSyAQ">[email protected]</a> Subject: [parkerboats] I'll let you know how they work As a means of decreasing my planing speed I have just purchased a set of Permatrims. I have been searching for an answer to the question " what's the best way to reduce planing speed and to hold plane?" I have found absolutely ZERO definite answers. I've seen similar questions on differing sites with responses like, doelfins, 4 blades, bigger tabs but, have yet to read " I did such and such and it works excellent/sucks". So I bit the bullet and will eventually let you guys know how they work. Why Permatrim? My dealer and a friend have had little success going the 4 blade route. Beside the fact $$$$. The dealer suggested doelfins, actually one set for two engines, just mounted to the outsides of either engine. I have heard that 2 sets would cause way too much stern lift and drag, and would adversly affect the ability to trim up. I hate running with the tabs fully tucked down so bigger tabs were never an option. The only choice for me was Perma. Hope it works or I'l have a few holes to fill in the cavitation plates when I remove them! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT < <a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129ja5hg1/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr">http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129ja5hg1/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr</a> <<a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129ja5hg1/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr">http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129ja5hg1/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr</a> > <<a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129ja5hg1/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr">http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129ja5hg1/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr</a> <<a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129ja5hg1/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr">http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129ja5hg1/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr</a> > > < <a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129ja5hg1/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr">http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129ja5hg1/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr</a> <<a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129ja5hg1/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr">http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129ja5hg1/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr</a> > <<a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129ja5hg1/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr">http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129ja5hg1/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr</a> <<a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129ja5hg1/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr">http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129ja5hg1/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr</a> > > > oups/S=1705065791:HM/EXP=1111115027/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/* <a href="http://www.">http://www.</a> <<a href="http://www.">http://www.</a>> <<a href="http://www.">http://www.</a> <<a href="http://www.">http://www.</a>> > < <a href="http://www.">http://www.</a> <<a href="http://www.">http://www.</a>> <<a href="http://www.">http://www.</a> <<a href="http://www.">http://www.</a>> > > netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075> click here < <a href="http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=">http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=</a> <<a href="http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=">http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=</a> > <<a href="http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=">http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=</a> <<a href="http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=">http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=</a> > > < <a href="http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=">http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=</a> <<a href="http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=">http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=</a> > <<a href="http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=">http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=</a> <<a href="http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=">http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=</a> > > > :HM/A=2593423/rand=749157004> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a>> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a>> > < <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a>> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a>> > > < <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a>> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a>> > < <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a>> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a>> > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: <a href="/group/parkerboats/post?postID=e_1RpIE3_LLu5yNtFc5PICNI0qKxTty4Qf6ID7-b23MVXAl4H0KuE9RucIzxTx3uT33qgyZufY48h7l3WLqwpLSrNsOJIUezifKIpRs">[email protected]</a> <mailto:<a href="/group/parkerboats/post?postID=e_1RpIE3_LLu5yNtFc5PICNI0qKxTty4Qf6ID7-b23MVXAl4H0KuE9RucIzxTx3uT33qgyZufY48h7l3WLqwpLSrNsOJIUezifKIpRs">[email protected]</a>?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service < <a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/</a> <<a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/</a>> <<a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/</a> <<a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/</a>> > < <a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/</a> <<a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/</a>> <<a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/</a> <<a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/</a>> > > > . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT < <a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1291jnhct/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr">http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1291jnhct/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr</a> <<a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1291jnhct/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr">http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1291jnhct/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr</a> > <<a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1291jnhct/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr">http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1291jnhct/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr</a> <<a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1291jnhct/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr">http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1291jnhct/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr</a> > > oups/S=1705065791:HM/EXP=1111259571/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/http:/www.n etflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075> click here Web Bug from <a href="http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=:">http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=:</a> <<a href="http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=">http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=</a> :> <<a href="http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=">http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=</a> <<a href="http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=">http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=</a> > :> HM/A=2593423/rand=976268561 _____ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a>> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a>> > < <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a>> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a>> > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: <a href="/group/parkerboats/post?postID=e_1RpIE3_LLu5yNtFc5PICNI0qKxTty4Qf6ID7-b23MVXAl4H0KuE9RucIzxTx3uT33qgyZufY48h7l3WLqwpLSrNsOJIUezifKIpRs">[email protected]</a> <mailto:<a href="/group/parkerboats/post?postID=e_1RpIE3_LLu5yNtFc5PICNI0qKxTty4Qf6ID7-b23MVXAl4H0KuE9RucIzxTx3uT33qgyZufY48h7l3WLqwpLSrNsOJIUezifKIpRs">[email protected]</a>?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of < <a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/</a> <<a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/</a>> <<a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/</a> <<a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/</a>> > > Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <<a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129pki04m/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr">http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129pki04m/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr</a> <<a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129pki04m/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr">http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129pki04m/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr</a> > oups/S=1705065791:HM/EXP=1111260970/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/<a href="http://www.">http://www.</a> <<a href="http://www.">http://www.</a>> netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075> click here <<a href="http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=">http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=</a> <<a href="http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=">http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=</a> > :HM/A=2593423/rand=175516713> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a>> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a>> > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: <a href="/group/parkerboats/post?postID=e_1RpIE3_LLu5yNtFc5PICNI0qKxTty4Qf6ID7-b23MVXAl4H0KuE9RucIzxTx3uT33qgyZufY48h7l3WLqwpLSrNsOJIUezifKIpRs">[email protected]</a> <mailto:<a href="/group/parkerboats/post?postID=e_1RpIE3_LLu5yNtFc5PICNI0qKxTty4Qf6ID7-b23MVXAl4H0KuE9RucIzxTx3uT33qgyZufY48h7l3WLqwpLSrNsOJIUezifKIpRs">[email protected]</a>?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <<a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/</a> <<a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/</a>> > . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <<a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129ksig5f/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr">http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129ksig5f/M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=gr</a> oups/S=1705065791:HM/EXP=1111262161/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/http:/www.n etflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075> click here Web Bug from <a href="http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=:">http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6191685.7192823.3001176/D=groups/S=:</a> HM/A=2593423/rand=281270049 _____ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a> <<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/parkerboats/</a>> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: <a href="/group/parkerboats/post?postID=e_1RpIE3_LLu5yNtFc5PICNI0qKxTty4Qf6ID7-b23MVXAl4H0KuE9RucIzxTx3uT33qgyZufY48h7l3WLqwpLSrNsOJIUezifKIpRs">[email protected]</a> <mailto:<a href="/group/parkerboats/post?postID=e_1RpIE3_LLu5yNtFc5PICNI0qKxTty4Qf6ID7-b23MVXAl4H0KuE9RucIzxTx3uT33qgyZufY48h7l3WLqwpLSrNsOJIUezifKIpRs">[email protected]</a>?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of <<a href="http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/">http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/</a>> Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]