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hey guys, have found a source for reasonably priced ring free for those that use it.
Derby Cycles. (google)
12.99/ 12 oz.
27.99 qt.
got it from them in 2 days. :D
 
Even better ... use Seafoam, < $10 at any auto parts store for 16 ounces!
 
DaleH, I have heard about Seafoam before but, was always afraid to use it and have been using Ring-free in my last 2 engines. How long have you been using it? Do you use it the same way as Ring-Free by adding to the fuel tank?
 
Sara F":16un0zfx said:
DaleH, I have heard about Seafoam before but, was always afraid to use it and have been using Ring-free in my last 2 engines.

Seafoam was invented when the 1st OBs came on the market and was presented to Ole Evinrude himself. In the opinion of some OB gurus, it is THE best motor elixer on the market, works in ALL motors. I have resurrected old chainsaws, lawn mowers, and even a $300 pressure washer others 'threw away' they allegedly didn't work.

I used it in my old Ford Explorer and it smoked so bad whilst cleaning I thought Megabyte and his Fire Dept would show up!

How long have you been using it?
40 years or so, as my Dad introduced it to me way back when ...

I know a few guys who used RingFree on a daily basis with each fill up and still needed their F225 injectors cleaned this year. The fuel this year was CRAP! IMHO, daily dosing doesn't due crap to eliminate build-up!

Do you use it the same way as Ring-Free by adding to the fuel tank?
Yup, though I prefer SHOCK TREATMENTS over dosages with each fuel fill-up. See Dunk's method below:

'Dunk'
Bob Dunkleberger, Professional Marine Surveyor [DH Edit: and OB guru of some reknown]
South Jersey
4:46 AM 6/20/2002

This works for Carbed, EFI, Ficht, HPDI, Optimax and even 4-stroke OBs ...
First you need a separate small fuel tank. One of those 3 gal red Tempos works great or an empty gal milk jug will also work, but might be a bit messier..

I use Seafoam over the OEM stuff like OMC Engine Tuner or Merc Power Tune because in the last few years they changed the formula and you have to let them sit up 12 hours. Who's got time for that?? Seafoam you can buy from NAPA, CarQuest or other auto stores. Seafoam works in 15 mins.

You'll need 3/4 gal of gasoline and one 16oz can of seafoam for each engine. Don't forget to add 3oz of oil if you are premixing in a carbed engine. Use about 3 ft piece of fuel hose off the little tank. You connect this tank to your engine by pulling off the main tank fuel hose off the intake side of your water separating fuel filter and plug the hose off the small tank on to that fitting. Or you can separate the fuel line on the tank side primer ball, so you can still use your primer. If you have an engine that has fuel plug then you need a fuel plug on the little tanks hose.

Start the engine, let it warm up and start pulling the mix into the engine. You may have to increase the idle to keep it running once she get loaded with the Seafoam. Run the engine 15 mins in the dock or just cruising around under 2500. Then shut it down and let it sit for 15 mins. Restart the engine, the smoke you see is the carbon burning off. Do the whole thing again and let her sit again for 15 mins. If she smokes after the second time do it again, but I've never seen one still smoke after three doses. The gallon mix should be enough to do this 3 times. You don't need any wide open throttle, you don't need to change the plugs. If it's cleaning the combustion chambers it's also cleaning the plugs, but every 50-60hrs is good time to change plugs in most engines.

I cleaned a antique Evinrude one time that had a 1/4" of solid carbon on the exhaust chamber walls by running a 1/2 gal of the mix through it. Seafoam has been around since the 30's and it's what they used when they were burning straight 4-stroke 40SAE oils in outboards.

You guys with the 4 strokes think you are immune from this? Those engines work 10 times as hard as any auto engine ever will and they will carbon up. I bought a Bronco two years ago that had 95,000 miles on it. When I used Seafoam on it I had the neighbors hanging out of their front doors looking for where the fire was after I started it the first time there so much smoke.

Too many are under the assumption that it's totally the 2 stroke oil that causes the carbon, Wrong... it's also the additives they put in the fuels today. The carbon inhibitors in 2 stroke oil are there for this reason also. Remember when gasoline used to smell like gasoline, today it smells more like bad cologne.

For those guys that like to do the carbon treatment by spraying it down the carbs Seafoam also comes in spray can called Deep Creep. It's the same stuff under pressure. Says right on the can Oxygen Sensor Safe, for you Yam guys.

After that if your engine maunf recommends a daily additive treatment then do that in the mean time, but all 2 stroke outboard need decarboned every 50-60hrs. If I owned a 4 stroke I would do it the same. Once you are set up with the tank and hose the Seafoam is only 5-6 bucks [DH edit: current pricing is $8-$10] per can. It is too easy not to do it!
 
Phil,

I have an "older" 225 2 stroke. I used Seafoam for the first time this year using Dunk's method. No question I saw the difference immediately and as easy as it was, I'll be doing it every 50 hours now. The stuff works.
 
DaleH and Tim, thanks for the responses. I am sold and will try Seafoam according to Dunk's directions.
 

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