I know this is a dead horse and have read every post on this site and fifty other sites but I am still not 100 percent decided on which hull would be best for me. I fish Long Island sound primarily for fluke. although with a bigger boat I'm sure I will explore striper fishing more. I would like the versatility to go offshore to the canyons but 99% of my fishing will be around fishers,plum, and block island. I chose a pilot hose because I want to be able to fish well into the fall for togs and also be able to spend a night out at block with my wife. I think I am leaning towards the modified but that can always change. either way I will be ordering the boat by the end of November. your comments will be appreciated and thanks in advance for your patients. LOL
Ordering a new 2520xl and still undecided, Deep or Modified?
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DaleH
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If it were me and I was going to boat anywhere out near Block Island, or elsewhere in BI Sound, plus have the option to head 'toward the canyons' ... it would be the deep-V hull for sure!
That said, my hull (14-degree mod-V) would get me out and back safely too ... albeit slower, but if I had had the choice of deadrise when I bought my boat (used) it sure would have been the deep-V model.
That said, my hull (14-degree mod-V) would get me out and back safely too ... albeit slower, but if I had had the choice of deadrise when I bought my boat (used) it sure would have been the deep-V model.
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If you fish even 1 trip offshore to the canyon,You will appriciate the deep vee.the deep vee hull is only 21 degree so it will drift and sit at anchor really well.I have deep vee center console and would never go back to mod vee,(That's just my opinion.) Good luck
pmeggers
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While I have taken a 23 SE (mod v) out to the canyons you speak of - you get the crap kicked out of you. Block Island is nearly always 2-3s and 2-4s. You will have to slow down more with a mod v than you would a deep v. The true advantage of the mod v for you would be stability in drifting for fluke.
Bryan 2530
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Deep Vee all the way, I fish your area too, the sound can kick up a nasty chop.
Question is why not go deep vee??? The fuel difference is not that much.
Also, go twin 150's if the budget allows. If not single 300 in my opinion.
Or, just buy my 2530 so I can get a 35 Duffy. 8)
Question is why not go deep vee??? The fuel difference is not that much.
Also, go twin 150's if the budget allows. If not single 300 in my opinion.
Or, just buy my 2530 so I can get a 35 Duffy. 8)
Bryan 2530
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PM sent regarding price.
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Posted this somewhere else, but It relates to you question:
I have learned about the difference of the different Parker hulls somewhat inadvertently, so I don't have to defend my choice in order to defend my boat knowledge studleyness, so let me give you what I learned for the tuition I paid.
I ran across a rather well off individual I had done some work for and found out he had a 2001 2520 Sc that he did not use much. It was on a lift behind his house here in NE Florida. I ended up buying it for a very reasonable price. (This is the part where I got my education). He said it had been on the lift for a year, ran great and told me stories about going 50 miles out of St. Augustine to the drop off and back home 20 miles South on the ICW using about a cup and a half of gasoline. Something like that that I blew off as BS.
It had (has) a 5.7 Volvo/Penta DuoProp (Fuel Injected 350ci Chevy) with only 150 total hours on the Hobbs! Well, not related to your question, it turned out it had sat on the lift for over 4 years. Without being flushed. Or ran. Six months and $8k later I got all of the bugs out of it, not to mention corrosion seals and dry rot, and after running it hard up and down the Intercoastal for a month, was confident enough to take it out the inlet. Happened to be a little rough that day (3-4' ).
I had to back way off to keep from losing my fillings. I'd been in some rough riding boats, but you could tell this one pounded more, and you knew it was partially because of how it was built like a tank with no "give" in the hull to soften the jarring impact. I really wasn't expecting that.
So I started researching the boat (yea, I know. A little late) and found there were two different hull configurations, deep V and Modified V. I had always thought of Parkers as a deep water boat, didn't know there was this option. So I called the factory, gave them my # and confirmed that mine was indeed a Modified V hull.
Now concerned about my investment (Working Class Do Without type), I asked the older gentleman on the phone if I had bought a Bay Boat. After a moment of silence (I may have heard something like sizzling bacon for a second), he said "You live in Florida, right"? Yep. "Next time you have a Hurricane, go offshore, strap yourself to my boat, and when you come to, you'll be floating!" OK, good enough!
So the MV hull pounds. More than most, but that's what it's built to do. Every design choice you make comes with a compromise. The choices you make are most apparent on boats and airplanes. In the words of Bob Dylan, " You give something up for everything you gain. Every ounce of pleasure got a drop of pain. Pay for your ticket and don't complain." (Sylvio, if you care)
In return for having to slow down in the rough, my boat will cruise at 25 MPH on 2.5 GPH. That's right, 10 MPG. Yea, I know. I can hear the old salts screaming BS from here, and I haven't even hit the return yet. But I swear it's consistently within spitting distance of that depending on load and seas.
So I've gotten used to it. Buck up and learn to enjoy it. I know it ain't gonna' break, it WILL get me home, and it thins out the guys that will go out anytime to the real fishermen. It's a strong boat. Be a strong man. And it helps if you wear a cup.
I have learned about the difference of the different Parker hulls somewhat inadvertently, so I don't have to defend my choice in order to defend my boat knowledge studleyness, so let me give you what I learned for the tuition I paid.
I ran across a rather well off individual I had done some work for and found out he had a 2001 2520 Sc that he did not use much. It was on a lift behind his house here in NE Florida. I ended up buying it for a very reasonable price. (This is the part where I got my education). He said it had been on the lift for a year, ran great and told me stories about going 50 miles out of St. Augustine to the drop off and back home 20 miles South on the ICW using about a cup and a half of gasoline. Something like that that I blew off as BS.
It had (has) a 5.7 Volvo/Penta DuoProp (Fuel Injected 350ci Chevy) with only 150 total hours on the Hobbs! Well, not related to your question, it turned out it had sat on the lift for over 4 years. Without being flushed. Or ran. Six months and $8k later I got all of the bugs out of it, not to mention corrosion seals and dry rot, and after running it hard up and down the Intercoastal for a month, was confident enough to take it out the inlet. Happened to be a little rough that day (3-4' ).
I had to back way off to keep from losing my fillings. I'd been in some rough riding boats, but you could tell this one pounded more, and you knew it was partially because of how it was built like a tank with no "give" in the hull to soften the jarring impact. I really wasn't expecting that.
So I started researching the boat (yea, I know. A little late) and found there were two different hull configurations, deep V and Modified V. I had always thought of Parkers as a deep water boat, didn't know there was this option. So I called the factory, gave them my # and confirmed that mine was indeed a Modified V hull.
Now concerned about my investment (Working Class Do Without type), I asked the older gentleman on the phone if I had bought a Bay Boat. After a moment of silence (I may have heard something like sizzling bacon for a second), he said "You live in Florida, right"? Yep. "Next time you have a Hurricane, go offshore, strap yourself to my boat, and when you come to, you'll be floating!" OK, good enough!
So the MV hull pounds. More than most, but that's what it's built to do. Every design choice you make comes with a compromise. The choices you make are most apparent on boats and airplanes. In the words of Bob Dylan, " You give something up for everything you gain. Every ounce of pleasure got a drop of pain. Pay for your ticket and don't complain." (Sylvio, if you care)
In return for having to slow down in the rough, my boat will cruise at 25 MPH on 2.5 GPH. That's right, 10 MPG. Yea, I know. I can hear the old salts screaming BS from here, and I haven't even hit the return yet. But I swear it's consistently within spitting distance of that depending on load and seas.
So I've gotten used to it. Buck up and learn to enjoy it. I know it ain't gonna' break, it WILL get me home, and it thins out the guys that will go out anytime to the real fishermen. It's a strong boat. Be a strong man. And it helps if you wear a cup.
Great stuff, In the words of Bob Dylan, " You give something up for everything you gain. Every ounce of pleasure got a drop of pain. Pay for your ticket and don't complain."
Here are some things I've learned about the 2520:
1. The Deep V is better running across the chop, but when it comes to the parker, it will never run like a true deep V. its just not deep enough and due to the weight and the fact you are standing closer to the bow on a pilot house you are going to pound to some degree.
2. Modified V is probably one of the most stable boats at drift in its class, referring to the 2520 with the 9'6" beam. when you narrow the beam like the 2320 you get a totally different boat.
3. The currant Modified V was introduced in 2002 or there abouts and was changed from a 14 degree dead rise to a 16 degree dead rise. the hull design on the entry was also redesigned with a sharper entry to help with the pounding.
4. You can order the deep v with the new Yamaha 300 but not the 350. (that 350 is an eight cylinder and will be much more costly as well as less fuel efficient), the verdict is still out on if the 300 will actually be under powering the deep v as far as Parker is concerned. I'm waiting to hear back from them.
5. The Modified with the 300 will be very fuel efficient and I like the idea of only having to maintain one engine, not to mention the initial cost for a second engine.
So here is what we need to do. we need to get a pre 2002 modified V, a new modified V and a deep V all out in the water at the same day under the same conditions. I want to get on all three and then make my decision.
just kidding fellas..I appreciate all your help and I am allot closer to making my decision.
Either way, modified or deep V, I know these are solid boats that are tanks. Thanks, Doug
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Here are some things I've learned about the 2520:
1. The Deep V is better running across the chop, but when it comes to the parker, it will never run like a true deep V. its just not deep enough and due to the weight and the fact you are standing closer to the bow on a pilot house you are going to pound to some degree.
2. Modified V is probably one of the most stable boats at drift in its class, referring to the 2520 with the 9'6" beam. when you narrow the beam like the 2320 you get a totally different boat.
3. The currant Modified V was introduced in 2002 or there abouts and was changed from a 14 degree dead rise to a 16 degree dead rise. the hull design on the entry was also redesigned with a sharper entry to help with the pounding.
4. You can order the deep v with the new Yamaha 300 but not the 350. (that 350 is an eight cylinder and will be much more costly as well as less fuel efficient), the verdict is still out on if the 300 will actually be under powering the deep v as far as Parker is concerned. I'm waiting to hear back from them.
5. The Modified with the 300 will be very fuel efficient and I like the idea of only having to maintain one engine, not to mention the initial cost for a second engine.
So here is what we need to do. we need to get a pre 2002 modified V, a new modified V and a deep V all out in the water at the same day under the same conditions. I want to get on all three and then make my decision.
just kidding fellas..I appreciate all your help and I am allot closer to making my decision.
Either way, modified or deep V, I know these are solid boats that are tanks. Thanks, Doug
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