Okay, seriously not to boast, just to illustrate the conditions we are having, this weekend went out three times and each time boated about thirty of these guys. Only a few under the 28' legal size. Used all of our live macks and then went to the dead macks. Made no difference!! When used up we went home, usually after an hour and a half or so. It is SO GREAT to see the striper population so healthy. Kept one each day and sent the rest back to breed! as Dale says, circle hooks are key.