Outriggers for a 2520- mounting on the pilot house roof????

[panga]

I am looking to get a set of outriggers for my 2520. The boat came with a pair of gunnel mount bases and a couple of poles, none of which had ever been installed. I am wondering if anyone has ever mounted a set of gunnel mount outriggers on the hardtop of a parker? After looking at them and trying to find the best place for them, I was thinking mounting on the overhang of the pilothouse roof might be a good spot? Anyone have any experience and or pictures of this, or where the best place to mount these style outriggers would be?

thanks

 

[pelagic2530]

I am looking to get a set of outriggers for my 2520. The boat came with a pair of gunnel mount bases and a couple of poles, none of which had ever been installed. I am wondering if anyone has ever mounted a set of gunnel mount outriggers on the hardtop of a parker? After looking at them and trying to find the best place for them, I was thinking mounting on the overhang of the pilothouse roof might be a good spot? Anyone have any experience and or pictures of this, or where the best place to mount these style outriggers would be?

thanks

if theyre the kind where a curved base fits into a base with a hole that looks like a small rodholder, dont waste your time, theyre crap. put them on ebay and get a set of Taco Grand Slams or Rupp Top Guns or something along those lines, thats designed to be up there and will work 100 times better. you can see pictures of my install here, a couple posts down.
http://www.classicparker.com/phpBB2/vie ... ter+spring

 

[DaleH]

Put "riggahs" into a search and you'll get a few hits ... or all the words "top out riggers" for more.

 

[got_em_on]

When we were working on our hardtop this year I noticed that the outside overhang was thinner than the portion over the house itself. You may get more flex than you expect if you mount on the overhang. If you are going to mount to the roof I would stick to the main section.

 

[DaleH]

When we were working on our hardtop this year I noticed that the outside overhang was thinner than the portion over the house itself.

Yup, good idea - clearly shown in the area with words as red text in the picture below:

 

[panga]

OK, cool thanks for the help, I dont want to rip a chunk of my pilot house off, I suppose I could have some large backing plates made to spread the load over a foot or so of the roof?

What is the problem with the gunnel mount style riggers ( they are the ones discribed above, they look like a set of flush mount mini rod holders with an insert piece). Are they just hard to use? The riggers came with the boat, so if possible I would like to use them, but if they dont work with a crap then I will be disappointed. I really wont be out rigger fishing that much, maybe a dozen days a year, but do want the option. I am not sure if I can swing a thousand dollar set of mounts, but like I said I want a decent set of riggers that function well.

 

[pelagic2530]

OK, cool thanks for the help, I dont want to rip a chunk of my pilot house off, I suppose I could have some large backing plates made to spread the load over a foot or so of the roof?

What is the problem with the gunnel mount style riggers ( they are the ones discribed above, they look like a set of flush mount mini rod holders with an insert piece). Are they just hard to use? The riggers came with the boat, so if possible I would like to use them, but if they dont work with a crap then I will be disappointed. I really wont be out rigger fishing that much, maybe a dozen days a year, but do want the option. I am not sure if I can swing a thousand dollar set of mounts, but like I said I want a decent set of riggers that function well.

alright. i may have been a little harsh in saying that they were crap. theyre ok (JUST ok) for a few applications. the problem with them is that they have no spread. when deployed, they go further back then they do out. furthermore, the fact that theyre mounted to the gunnels means that they will be low to the water as well, certainly no more than maybe 5-6' above the surface. if you want to run more than 1 line from each rigger, forget it. likewise, if you want to pull spreader bars from the riggers, forget it, you'll never be able to get the height angle to run them more than a couple yards back, which totally defeats the purpose of the outriggers.

that being said, if all youre looking to do is run a 5 rod spread, or troll inshore for bass or the like, they'll probably work. i mean, i used them offshore for a few years before i got fed up with them. part of it is just my distaste for having marginal equipment aboard. i like stuff to do its job and do it well. so, i guess, if youre ok with inshore fishing and dont have any desire to move to the deep water, sink 'em in. i will say that if you later do decide to move to better riggers, the holes for the gunnel mounts are damn hard to fill (still havent done mine- covered up with a starboard plate and 4200- it'll work for now ) if you do decide to go that route, let me know and i'll give you a few pointers that the person who installed mine must have found out about the hard way :evil: about how not to mangle the wood underneath. good luck whatever you decide to do.

 

[panga]

not exactly sure what to do still, my boat has a second station fly bridge on roof of pilot house made of aluminum tubing so I am not sure if the grand slam style mounts could be mounted with the handles on the inside of the pilot house, I kind of doubt it because of the placement of the legs of the second station frame.

Why do the gunnel mount riggers only go out half way, it seems like the ones I have have a hex or octagon style pattern on the inside and you can spin them out a full 90 deg? I will have to go down to the boat to check it out tomorrow.

I will be using the riggers for albacore.

If I cant use the grand slam style mounts because of the second station frame, and the gunnel mount are sub par, does that only leave me with the wish bone style outrigger mounts? Are these any good. Thanks very much any advice is appreciated

 

[pelagic2530]

not exactly sure what to do still, my boat has a second station fly bridge on roof of pilot house made of aluminum tubing so I am not sure if the grand slam style mounts could be mounted with the handles on the inside of the pilot house, I kind of doubt it because of the placement of the legs of the second station frame.

Why do the gunnel mount riggers only go out half way, it seems like the ones I have have a hex or octagon style pattern on the inside and you can spin them out a full 90 deg? I will have to go down to the boat to check it out tomorrow.

I will be using the riggers for albacore.

If I cant use the grand slam style mounts because of the second station frame, and the gunnel mount are sub par, does that only leave me with the wish bone style outrigger mounts? Are these any good. Thanks very much any advice is appreciated

it has to do with the curve angle of the bases vs. the angle of the hole in the bases. it makes it so that instead of swinging outward, they stick out at about a 30-degree angle back. at least, thats the way it was with mine, and mine were Lee's, which usually makes good equipment. Maybe ask Reely Nauti, he has a gunnel mount system and might have some input.

as for the wishbones, they are arguably the best. the reason i didnt mention them is that theyre expensive, and you mentioned a budget. the top mounts will do essentially the same job for less, unless they dont fit on your boat or you get a KILLER deal on the wishbones.

 

[ReelyNauti]

mine r in my buddies shed out near my boat ....ill be rerigging them some time in the next 10 days or so and then ill post a picture

 

[panga]

reelynauti- How do the gunnel mounts work for you would you consider replacing them, or do they do the job good enough, do you have them gunnel mounted or did you put them on top of the pilot house, if so on the overhang or sticking into pilot house.

 

[DaleH]

To me ... outriggahs are all about height! At least for the toona fishing I do and to ensure the trolled squid bars have the best action. One has 2 options for height, longer more expen$ive riggah poles or mount the bases as high as you can.

Surely either design will work for you, whether they be gunnel mounts, wishbones, or roof-mounts. I'd look at the Taco "Sport Slam" models like this, for roof mounted ones:

 

[ReelyNauti]

mine came w the boat ill see if i like em if not ill sell em and mount rod holders inplace then add roof tops if i have to never gonna do wish bones i hate them my buddy has them and i hater walking past them when we have to get to anchor