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parkerjon

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I saw a post a while ago about a water pump replacement requesting info. Just replaced the water pump on my f115. I've done this several times on other motors but this is the first time for the 2003 f115 (600 hours). I'll try and attach pictures but may need some help with that.

Impeller - good condition, replaced
Impeller Housing Cup - good condition, replaced
Wear Plate - worn, replaced
Impeller Housing - Re-Used

Also replaced spacer, collar, grommet, gasket, and wave washer

All bolts came off without a hitch, The woodruff key (in my opinion, always a pain in the butt) needed a very light heat and prying to get out. (cant say watch the heat enough,luke more, oil seals are below)Anyone have an easier way to get the key out let me know.

I've seldom found an impellar that actually needed replacement. Although, when I take things apart, I go with new parts. I get most of my parts online, but like to give my local service dealer some of the business (even though their parts a redicously expensive) because they will often answer some nagging questions when you make a purchase. Pays off in the end.

Dissasembly
1) I recommended a manufacturer tech manual for your engine
2) I had to remove 7 bolts to drop the lower unit. I removed the zinc trim tab to replace, prop was already removed for the winter. Remember the drive shaft is long so you need to tilt the engine to slide the lower unit off.
3) Remove the impellar housing (4 bolts), rember theres two o rings there you will need to replace when going back together, 1 big, 1 small
4) Clean, inspect the impeller housing, replace the rubber gromet and spacer on the discharge tube of the housing. I use a little silicone grease so its slides on the copper tube easier when putting back together
5) Remove the impeller housing cup, I always replace this.
6) Next on the shaft is a collar and spacer, might have to pry up on the collar, I replace them both anyways.
7) Remove the 2 flat washers along with the wave washer in the middle, I replace these to.
8) Take of the impeller and save it, no your not going to reuse it, we will get back to the old impeller during reassembly.
10) Now my nemis, the woodruff key, Got to get it out, I could use some help on this one, I apply very little heat to the shaft and gently pry. Be very careful with the heat, oil seals are below (luke warm at most).
11) Remove the wear plate and gasket undern the wear plate.

Assembly

Clean everything up. Use a very fine emery paper to clean the shaft up where the impeller is fitted.

1) Apply very light coating of gasket seal to bottom of gasket
2) Slide on the wear plate
3) Press in the woodruff key,
4) put a light coat of silicone grease on the top of the wear plate, also on the impeller
5) slide the new impeller on over the key, only goes on one way
6) put on a flat wahser,wave washer,another flat washer in that order
7) next is the plastic spacer and collar, careful with the plasic spacer, I've cracked them before.
8) now get the old impeller and put it on the shaft backwards and apply light even pressure. You need to compress the plastic spacer and collar. The specified gap between them on my engine is 80 thousandths. After compressing remove the old impeller.
9) Now the impeller housing cup goes on. You need to fit it over the impeller, meaning you have to bend the blades of the impeller to fit inside the housing cup. I always make sure I bend the blades the correct way, (the way they were bent on the the old impeller. I've been told if you do it backwards, the blades will find the right way. I wouldn't leave this to chance. Anyone chime in if you know more. This is easier with 4 hands but can be done with 2 and a little frustration.
10) Put the little and big o-rings onto the impeller housing with some silccone grease to hold them in place. slide the housing down to the housing cup. You need to align the housing cup to the housing. Theres a little hole on the housing and housing cup to align, turning the shaft will facilitate this. The tabs on top of the housing cup will fit into the housing when the little holes are lined up. Feel underneith with your fingers to make sure the o-rings are still in the right position. You can look under and see to just before you bring the housing down. Wiggle the housing into place so the housing cup top tabs fit into the housing.
11) Tighten the four bolts on the housing. I use a little locktite on the threads.

12) Replace the space and gromet in the water pump housing discharge if you havent already.

Clean the splines on the drive shaft and shift spline (little one) apply some yamalube to the spines, not to much (tech manual says use moly disulfide oil, I've always used yamalube and my splines lhave always looked great).

Clean up the copper water tube on the engine.

Put the lower unit back on carefully, you will have to rotate the shaft a little to align the splines. The copper tube should go into the water pump housing discharge.

Lower unit bolts, I've read some discussion on the bolts, I only had a problem once on an older motor getting them out, Had to use an easyout. I've read people using anti-seize and what not, if it works for you thats great, I go the opposite way and put on a small amount of locktite. That being said, I do loosen and clean the bolts one at a time every other season.

Anyone with other reccomendations please chime in.

Old Assembly After Removing Lower Unit

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Close Up Prior to Disassembly

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Housing Cup Coming Off

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Wear Plate and Old Impeller

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Put Back Together

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parkerjon":1j6kwtcn said:
coming next.
Cant get the pictures to work for the water pump, anyone got any ideas
Please read through this post here,, I bet your pictures need to be re-sized as they're too big in size and pixel count for our server. I prefer you resize them to the SMALL or 640 by 480 size.
 
Use RGS (Really Good $hit) or PB Blaster and let it soak into the crack between the shaft and the key over night (or at least for a long lunch hour or beer break).

I would never use heat on the shaft because the upper seals are so close to the keyway.

A burnt seal means water in the gear case. :shock: :shock: :shock:

Dave

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I agree about the heat Porkchuncker, luke warm is about all I make it. The problem is that key is essentially less than an interference fit . The amount of pressure to get that thing in (even after leaving in the freezer) is what I consider to be extreme. I actually bought a new key in hopes the wrong key was originally installed but it was the same size. Grateful for the reccomendations, I will try a better penetrating fluid next time I do it, a few years from now.
 
Cant get the pictures to work for the water pump, anyone got any ideas

Parkerjon, what a great post! I have the same motor. Wish you wrote this a month ago :cry: The reason your close-ups did not come into focus is probably because that your camera needs to be in "macro mode" for close-ups. This may be indicated by a flower symbol on your camera's dislay as you scroll through the modes. This may allow you to focus within inches.
 
Thanks Jersey Jim,
Sorry about the camera phone and spelling errors, I wanted to take several more pictures, but my other half was rushing me, she was making me babysit my own kids so she could go shopping, can you imagine that. :roll:
 
Did a quick search on another site,

The woodruff key on yamaha's is apparently pretty well documented as being a tight fit.

Two recommendatations that apparently seemed to work,

1)dremel cut the key lenghwise in the middle, ie a slot down the middle, and collapse the key pliers.

2)soft heat and prying

Either way you have to watch the heat, the cutting may even transfer more heat than soft heating.

Another recommendation I liked was polishing down the new key slightly for an easier fit.
 
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